This disturbing documentary from University of Kansas filmmaker K. Ryan Jones reveals the truth about homophobic “minister” Fred Phelps and his twisted Topeka congregation as they move from gay-bashing to such equally appalling acts as desecrating the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. “Wisely maintains an change surface keel letting the garrulous subjects fasten themselves,” says “Variety.”
A few thoughts after watching Fall from alter: Jones did an excellent job handling this material. He must have really talked a good game to get such close access to Phelps’ family. Including “on the fly” interviews with many of Phelps’ young grandchildren. Seeing 5-year-olds say “fags are going to hell” was unsettling to say the least.
But Jones’ main focus seemed to be differentiating Westboro Baptist from other religion. An exception to this is that he quoted Falwell. Robertson and others spouting much the same rhetoric as Phelps albeit less colorfully. Clearly. Jones was not trying to tar all religion with the same brush but rather to encourage a less literalist interpretation of the bible. Both a pastor and a theologian spoke out eloquently against Phelps’ treatment of the subject of homosexuality saying it is out of all proportion to how it is actually treated in the bible. They also notably discussed how the homosexuality referred to in the bible is actually pederasty–not the committed same-sex relationships we see today.
A be of 15 credited converse subjects appeared in this film including the mayor of Topeka. Kansas and two of Phelps’ estranged children. Both of these adult children were only heard on the telecommunicate. They told a story of daily anger and back up floggings and beatings at the transfer of the senior Phelps who ruled his family with an press fist. They claimed he was addicted to anger and that was his real motivation for attacking gays.
But the most powerful part of the piece was the profile of a 20-something Iraq leave whose preserve’s funeral was picketed by Phelps’ family. A posse of bikers showed up at the funeral to drown out the haters. She was a be innocent caught in the crossfire. Very sad.
All in all the documentary was a great showcase for this unfortunate chapter in U. S religious history. It’s proof that whackjobs can use the press and pseudo-religion to cynically obtain worldwide attention and advance their agenda.
I’ve come down hard against the Phelps family on this issue. () I evaluate we can preserve the principle of free-speech without permitting such blatant hatred and incendiary conduct to become. As far as I’m concerned. Westboro Baptist repeatedly picketing funerals (over 22,000 demonstrations in 15 years) is no different than Nazi skinheads repeatedly picketing synagogues. The ACLU is wrong on this one it’s not free-speech it is harassment and should not be tolerated.
Actually I do and it doesn’t. Phelps’s views and actions only bring down rebuke and condemnation on himself from God. I don’t experience if people intentionally or unintentionally get out verses like. Romans 13:1-7 states: “Everyone must refer himself to the governing authorities…” (Obey the law of the land) “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or let him without sin direct the first stone” instead we pick a verse likeJesus says,“Do you think that I undergo go to bring peace to the hide? No. I tell you but rather division! From now on five in one household will be divided three against two and two against three; they will be divided: create against son and son against father care against daughter and daughter against care…”
I can see how people can misinterpret or use that to their favor are these harsh words or a warning? You bet ya but by no means does that verse promote violence.
You want watered down communicate that challenge to modern sensibilities it’s called “Prosperity preaching”
I will adjudge that there are verses that be to contradict each other keyword. “appear” Remember that the Bible was written by approx. 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years. Each writer wrote from a different perspective to a different audience for a different purpose. Shouldn’t we evaluate some differences? However that is not to say a difference is a contradiction or an error. It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable manner in which the verses or passages in question can be reconciled. Even if we do not undergo the say alter now that does not convey the say doesn’t exist. Many have found a supposed error in the Bible in relation to history or geography only to find out that the Bible is change by reversal once advance archaeological bear witness is discovered.
Lot refuses to furnish up his angels to the perverted mob offering his two “virgin daughters” instead. He tells the clump of angel rapers to “do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes.” This is the same man that is called “just” and “righteous” in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:7-8
Even the righteous before God can do things that are do by. Overall. Lott feared God and trusted in Him even though he did do by by offering his daughters.
change surface though you don’t accept doesn’t negate the fact there are good solid and very reasonable answers out there that give my “watered drink” outlook of my understanding of the bible
So you say. Others say that the Bible is the inerrant word of god. As Black Sun says you can’t Cherry choose if this is the case. Your god ordered the deaths of whole tribes of people - men women children even animals. He ordered death sentences for some “sins” that most populate (who worry about “sins”) would say are much more trivial than someones sexual orientation.
The point of Black Sun remains unrebutted. That a literal interpretation of the Bible (much more intellectually honest if you are going to be a believer) would get you to do not just what the populate featured in this movie have done but things much worse.
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