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"The Stupidity of WCW" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:09:00

Welcome to the Wackbag com forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls and access many other special features. There are many changes happening every day on Wackbag com so you should to avoid missing out! Registration is fast simple and absolutely free so please. ! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login please contact. This isn't the death we're going to talk about WCW booking!.. and how awful it really was. A man from another boards citing credible sources put this together. Some of it sounds a little fishy but when you read through these a lot of it would make sense since WCW put itself in the shitterHere is some of the stuff this man posted... It's a long read. I'll tell you now. The Book of WCW Stupidityby XanshinNote: All of the bullet points unless otherwise noted have been written entirely by me. Sources for the information include; "The Death of WCW". "Have A Nice Day" and The Wrestling Observer Benoit left the company as WCW champion. He offered to lose the title to whoever they wanted but was told instead to just leave. Those backstage who questioned the move were told that Benoit was a vanilla midget who would never draw. Guerrero. Malenko and Saturn were all granted unconditional releases aswell. Despite being midcarders most of their WCW careers their RAW debut drew a 6.59 rating to Nitro's 2.79. The peak of Raw's ratings was during the main event featuring - you guessed it - Benoit. Malenko. Guerrero and Saturn. AKA The "Vanilla Midgets". Their match drew a rating of 8.1 WCW claimed that Three Count's album (which didn't exist btw) had gone Platinum. Evan Karagious also claimed their second album would be even bigger and would go Gold. (For those who are not aware. Platinum CDs > Gold CDs). Sid had a winning streak which contained within it 3 televised pinfall losses. 1 countout loss and 1 loss via disqualification. He even claimed an extra victory later in the same night as one of his defeats. His streak also went up by 5 on a show in which he didn't wrestle. Russo's second show in charge featured Bret running in on a Juventud/Psychosis match. Neither were told Bret was running in and nobody to this day knows quite why he ran in. Tony Schivone announced on Nitro that Mick Foley was going to win the WWF Title on RAW. He added "That'll put butts in seats". The ratings the next day showed that immediately afterwards 300,000 homes switched to Raw. Goldberg's winning streak was gathering momentum and people were attending house shows in record numbers. Signs appeared in the audience with the exact number of wins Goldberg had including at house shows. House show attendence was up fans were excited and all of a sudden WCW added 20 victories out of nowhere. House show attendence fell and the signs soon disappeared. Hogan faked injury in order to miss a Nitro that was being preempted by US Open Tennis. He then used this to claim that Nitro's rating fell because he was not on the show. He was subsequently given the WCW title soon after. WCW spent weeks hyping the debut of "The Machine". He wrestled DDP lost and was never seen again. Booker T and Big T (Ahmed Johnson) feuded over who owned the rights to the letter "T". Scott Steiner cut an unscripted promo in which he criticised Ric Flair said WCW "sucked" and made reference to people turning over to watch Steve Austin instead. He was punished by being suspended... from Thunder... with pay. WCW rigged the polls on their website so that if people voted for Kidman/Rey for example as MOTN the vote would actually go to Hogan/Sid. Hogan used this as evidence that Billy Kidman "couldn't headline a wrestling show at a flea market". Hogan claimed on TV in 2000 nobody in the industry under the age of 40 could draw. This was in the middle of the Austin era in which Austin became the biggest draw in wrestling history. He was in his mid 30s. Goldberg. WCW's biggest draw in the year previous was also under 40 by a distance. Chris Jericho's action figures were set so that when they were bought the receipt would say either "Sting" or "Hogan". They subsequently got the revenue money for the sales. Russo's stint as head booker saw the PPV revenue cut in half within 3 months. Vince Russo once claimed his booking of WCW wasn't going to plan because Ted Turner prevented him from using angles calling women wrestlers fat. David Arquette became WCW champion. Despite the amazing amount of mask sales. Eric Bischoff decided Rey Mysterio Jr would be a bigger draw without his mask. He then proceeded to do nothing with him. Vince Russo lost his job as head writer when he put forward the idea that Tank Abbott should be WCW champion. WCW kept Scott Hall employed despite missing a Nitro before a PPV main event he was to feature in causing havoc on a flight to Berlin and missing the flight back... and despite threatening to hit Terry Taylor with a guitar. They felt he was too valuable as a witness in their copyright infringement battle with WWE to allow him to leave. KISS performed a concert on Nitro which gained one of the lowest ratings for any segment during the Monday Night Wars. Part of the deal included the band being paid $500,000 and a guarantee that the "KISS DEMON" would be featured in main event matches. Sid lost a match by countout in a Falls Count Anywhere match. Kevin Nash ending Goldberg's streak while booker. WCW gave up on keeping Scott Hall sober so told him to "pretend" to be drunk during promos. His pretending of course involved a lot of alcohol consumption and some ridiculous remarks including shouting out "Giant.. that's your cue!". WCW paid James Brown $25,000 to show up and dance for 2 minutes at SuperBrawl 2000 without advertising his appearance at all. He was paid $25,000 because they felt he could draw viewers but nobody knew he was going to be there! Tank Abbott got legitimately p o'd at "Big Al" during a match. At the end of their match (which was a leather jacket on a pole match of course) he pulled a knife on him held it to his throat and told him he could kill him. The cameras cut away while Schivone tried to explain to fans that Tank Abbott was disrespecting him by trying to shave his beard. Big Al didn't have a beard though... Kevin Sullivan was so disliked that 14 wrestlers asked for their release at the same time while he was booking. Ric Flair was burried (literally) in the storyline. Their answer to Benoit. Malenko. Guerrero and Saturn leaving was for him to be dug up on the next week's Nitro. WCW made it a policy to humiliate Ric Flair any time they were near his hometown. It is not known why other than they did not feel Flair could headline shows at his age and wanted to try and prove their point by saying that he didn't get good reactions in his hometown nevermind everywhere else. Russo proposed a storyline in which Nash made Scott Hall number one contender but Hall would be unable to make it due to being drunk in Florida. Nash in the storyline would then make himself number one contender and win the title. The storyline was nixed by Kevin Nash who was scared by this point by the amount of people who hated him. Goldberg came within half an inch of losing his arm when he punched the window of a limo to break the glass. He was supposed to hit it with a concealed lead pipe but dropped it. Eric Bischoff would often book angles where wrestlers quit the company. He would tell the guys backstage they had actually quit because he felt this would make things more real. Really it just made the guys backstage annoyed that their boss was lying to them. Vince Russo became WCW champion. Warrior's debut promo went a full 20 minutes longer than it was supposed to. He also made several unscripted comments including saying "beating Hogan was no big deal because everyone has done it". This despite them hyping a match which fans were supposed to care about. Several changes were made to the rest of the show due to the lost 20 minutes. WCW's injury policy was that if a wrestler was injured for a long period of time they were able to cut their earnings in half. The idea was to stop wrestlers faking injury and collecting money. The irony is that Hogan faked injury several times but had a guaranteed money contract. Meanwhile many wrestlers came back too early leading to painkiller addictions amongst other problems because they could not afford to have their money slashed in half. They failed to advertise a PPV and revealed no matches before it in 1999. At a loss it was advertised it by saying "We're the advertising agency and they won't even tell us who's going to be there. Tune in!". Not suprisingly the buyrate was shocking. Vince Russo hyped up a massive event that would change wrestling for Starrcade 1999. It ended up being a rehash of the Montreal Screwjob this time with Bret taking the win. Nobody cared. Bret Hart's big debut in the company was to be the guest referee for an Eric Bischoff vs Larry Zbysko match. This despite him being the hottest commodity in pro wrestling at the time. The original plan for Thunder was for it to be an nWo show. The plan was cancelled when a test show nWo Nitro bombed and so did the only nWo PPV. Vince Russo's appearance in WCW co-incided with the end of the football season meaning that WCW would almost certainly get more viewers. He used this to claim he was turning things around. This despite the fact that WCW's ratings increase was half of the amount WWE's ratings increased by that week. When WCW cut from 3 hours to 2 they were running completely unopposed by WWE. They fully expected a ratings increase from the previous week's 3.29 to well up in the 4s. The rating for the first 2 hour show? 3.29 again! Chris Jericho once appeared in a backstage segment mocking Goldberg's entrance. He was to try and go through a door but discover it was locked. Trouble was when Jericho tried the door it opened and so Jericho had to quickly close the door and then pretend it was locked despite the whole viewing audience seeing it open. In 1997. Eric Bischoff told everyone backstage that he had it on very good authority that WWE's money troubles were beyond repair and that they were going to be out of business within 6 months. Jericho was involved in another segment backstage where he was chasing another wrestler. The cameras didn't cut and so the viewing audience were treated to seeing the two wrestlers suddenly stop running turn round and walk casually towards the camera while chatting away. The Warrior appeared in a backstage segment in which he was visible in a mirror only to Hogan. The problem was he was also visible to everyone at home... WCW booked Billy Kidman and Dean Malenko in a "catch-as-catch-can" match in which if anyone left the ring they lost the match. Dean Malenko instinctively rolled out of the ring after a sequence and the bell rang. Malenko was dumbfounded. Kidman went on to wrestle two other matches that night. In 1999 Hogan cut a promo in which he said that "young guys" like Lex Luger (who was in his 40s at the time) needed to give in because they could never be big stars. WCW's annual Road Wild PPV always lost WCW money because they generated a gate receipt of $0.00 every year for it. At the time DX invaded WCW and claimed they were giving away free tickets they were actually not. They filed a lawsuit against WWE for the claim. Before the lawsuit finished the were - you guessed it - giving away free tickets to fill their shows. In the early 1990s. WCW shows featured a sign telling fans when to cheer and when to boo. They also filtered out real wrestling fans as much as possible from attending their shows at Universal Studios because they were scared their babyfaces would be booed. WCW booked an Inferno Match between Sting and Vampiro. The match ended with a stunt double dressed as Sting plummeting off the big movie screen and through a hole in the ramp which was filled with foam. WCW's commentary team then proceeded to basically re-hash the commentary from J. R and Jerry Lawler after Owen Hart's accident. The comapny subsequently received tousands and thousands of letters complaining about the distatseful nature of the incident. WCW management tried to release Davey Boy Smith while he was injured (due to taking a bump on the infamous trapdoor that Warrior used to "teleport" in and out of the ring). They felt Smith was faking his injury. The reality was that there were legitimate concerns he may never walk again. Heenan's "Who's side is he on?" comment when Hogan appeared as the third man of the nWo was totally unscripted. He was severely reprimanded for giving away the heel turn. In 2000 a fan was pictured on the screen with a sign saying "I'M AT A WCW EVENT". He was wearing a bag on his head. A fan dressed as Sting ran into a match and the commentators so used to not being told about changes to shows assumed it was the real Sting. Goldberg ate Scott Hall's contract on an episode of Nitro. The idea being that Scott Hall was a free agent because he no longer had a contract. He appeared the next week and suddenly he had a contract again. In a segment said to be hilarious live. (Elix) Skipper was talking trash and challenging Goldberg. Goldberg came out behind Skipper. Skipper keeps turning and Goldberg keeps adjusting his position so Skipper can't see him. All of this is on the big screen which Skipper is looking right at and can see Goldberg behind him but because they didn't consider this when making the angle he had to pretend - Wrestling Observer At Uncensored 2000 the main event was Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan in a strap match. The commentators explained that to win you had to touch all four corners. Hogan won by hitting the leg drop and pinning Flair. A baffled crowd continued to watch as Hogan won for a second time by touching all 4 corners. During his second run on the creative team. Russo claimed the biggest problem with WCW was the mis-use of the cruiserweights. During his first run he built the cruiserweight division around Oklahoma (a fat spoof of JR) and Madusa (Alundra Blayze.. a woman). Russo's plan for success in his run in charge of the company in 2000 was to bring the Warrior back. In his own words: "there is nobody who doesn't want to see a Warrior vs Goldberg match". The Wall is one of the only men in WCW to have kicked out of Hogan's leg drop of doom. Before Bischoff and Russo teamed up on the creative team. WCW aired a taped edition of Nitro that was basically a "best of" show. Schivone came out with the quote that the show was "a reminder of how good Nitro USED to be". - Yup you read that right... Schivone outright admitted to the few loyal WCW fans left that Nitro used to be much better than the drivel they were being forced to watch now. Russo and Bischoff's first show in charge saw Billy Kidman defeat Hulk Hogan. Yes the same Billy Kidman who the same Hulk Hogan had said couldn't headline a wrestling show at a flea market. In a follow-up to the fan dressed as Sting. WCW decided (for no real reason) to have a planted fan dressed as Sting attempt to interfere in another match only to be beaten up by Hogan before climbing the barricade. Ed Leslie (Brutus Beefcake) played a character called the Bootyman. His finisher was the High Knee. (Hiney get it?) WCW lost a perfectly good working deal with NJPW because Eric Bischoff decided it was within his right to tell them who could and could not be featured in matches with the members of New Japan's nWo group. He then had the audacity to try and arrange for WCW and All Japan to enter into a talent exchange. NJPW were not happy. At the end of Nash's stint as booker. Goldberg beat Sting in a non-title match. The commentators pointed out it was non-title and the ring announcer said it was non-title. Goldberg was inexplicably given the title after the match. Following the DX invasion and the false allogation that free tickets were given away. WCW filed a lawsuit claiming it suggested WCW did not have enough fans to fill it's shows and that was damaging their product. WCW shot themselves in the foot because on the next Nitro they claimed on air that Raw is War hadn't sold out when in actual fact it had. Russo ran an angle in one of his early shows in which Bret Hart ran over Sid in a monster truck. Sid was there next week unharmed. Sid Vicious was told that in order to get over he needed to add high risk offense to his matches. This of course resulted in his first attempt at such a move breaking his leg in two. Don't believe Russo has a fetish for "on a pole" matches? Well during his time on the booking committee he booked a leather jacket on a pole match a lex-flexer (which was a bodybuilding instrument) on a pole match and a stun-gun on a pole match. Brian Kobbs' last appearance on WCW television featured him being hit by a life-size Goldberg cutout by Meng. Knobbs sold it. Scott Hall cut a promo where he claimed he had been banned from saying "Hey Yo!". The promo was unscripted and made no sense especially because he said "hey yo" in the promo. Russo wanted the company to be more realistic and less insulting. He featured a backstage segment in which Buff Bagwell and Scotty Riggs discussed the planned finish of their match with Bagwell acting shocked that he was going to be pinned. In the match later that night. Bagwell won and went onto a brief storyline where it was Bagwell vs The Writers. Bagwell came out and cut a promo on a Nitro in late 1999 saying that everybody knew he was the writer's chosen one. This stemmed from comments that Russo had made about Bagwell in public. Trouble was only 5% of the crowd (if that) knew of the comments and so nobody really knew what Bagwell was talking about. Russo believed everyone read wrestling dirtsheets daily. He was clearly wrong. Scott Hall came out of a stint in rehab and returned along with Kevin Nash (who just a few months earlier had "retired forever". Hall made comments saying Kevin Nash "was working a fake retirement" and would be back "when wrestling was fun again". Okerlund tried to tell Hall it was fun now..... Hall's retort - "You must've not been in the dressing room lately". Vince Russo's idea to reduce spending was to cut Nitro from 3 hours to 2 hours. They did this and the ratings stayed the same. They did however lose out on all the additional revenue that the final hour had brought them. In other words they were losing more money than before. Up until 2000. WCW had never thought of just flying the members of the roster in who were required. Every Nitro. Thunder and PPV saw them fly the entire 160+ roster members in and use only 20-30 of them. This was mainly due to the amount of times changes were made just before or even during the show. People wonder why WCW was losing money. Warrior signed $1 million deal to work a maximum of 5 shows a month. During the Giant's induction into the nWo. Scott Hall made an unscripted comment asking if Andre the Giant was really his dad (referring to the angle WCW tried with the Giant originally). The Giant became visibly upset at Hall's "improvisation" and with a mean stare said "don't go there". WCW decided to issue a random drugs test. Scott Steiner claimed to have injured his back and didn't attend. It's speculated he was tipped off by WCW management fully aware Steiner would fail about the testing. In his next match against Scott Norton the WCW fans started chanting "Steroids!" "Steroids!" and Bobby Heenan said he had "never heard a crowd so pumped up in his life". In 1994. Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan would regularly take company money and go on expensive nights out. They reportedly spent over $2000 of the company's money at a sushi restaurant. Ric Flair was involved in an angle where he was beaten and left in a field. He was picked up by a redneck in a pickup truck who brought him back to Nitro where he sold the beating and rather than making a babyface comeback was treated to another ass-kicking. At the time WCW commentators were not allowed to see taped segments of the show (nobody knows why) and so they had not seen the field incident. Heenan speculated that Flair was drunk which of course to the television audience at home made no sense because they had all seen him get beaten and left in a field. Sean Waltman was fired whilst recovering from a broken neck. The decision was made to fire him after Nash and Hall had complained about being pushed down the pecking order now that Randy Savage and Hogan were best friends again. Waltman went on to make $100,000 more in WWE than he was making in WCW. Midcarders started to notice WWE's willingness to pay them more and push them as stars and so gradually more and more wanted to leave. Nash and Hall also tried to get out at this time but were unsuccessful. Goldberg was arrested in the storyline for assaulting Miss Elizabeth. He was scheduled to be in the main event and was arrested near the beginning of the show. Eventually he was released but the question was would he make it back in time? The trouble was that earlier in the show it had been revealed that the police station was just accross the road from the arena. Somehow. Goldberg did not make the 30-second walk back to the arena in time. Scott Steiner went on a bit of a rampage and made several unscripted comments such as calling Ric Flair an "ass kicking butt-sucking *******" on national television and badmouthing the company. The trouble was nobody dared to tell him to stop because at the time he had a notoriously short temper and everyone backstage was scared of him. The only person to stand up for himself was DDP who got into a fight backstage with Steiner. Steiner took him down punched him several times in the eye and DDP and Kevin Nash left in fear. They claimed they would be back when "there was new management". Steiner's punishment? None. Sting pinned Lex Luger for a three count after backdropping him into a swimming pool. At the beginning of the Millionaires Club vs New Blood storyline. Eric Bischoff asked Sid to vacate the WCW title in the storyline. He then made a joke about not having a pair of scissors. This was in reference to a real-life fight close to ten years earlier in which Sid attacked Arn Anderson with a pair of scissors. The joke got no response because hardly any of the crowd knew about the incident. Bischoff repeated the joke assuming the fans didn't hear. They did. They heard it twice and didn't respond either time because nobody understoof it. WCW paid a considerable six-figure sum to get Mike Awesome out of his ECW contract. He worked a very short angle with Kevin Nash before going on to be that 70s Guy and the Fat Chick Thriller. He was a midcarder in both but Russo had managed to convince WCW to cough up the six-figure fee because he claimed Awesome would be a huge star. On the April 17th 2000 edition of Nitro a comment was made on commentary that "In the new WCW there were going to be real winners and losers" because the referees "were not going to call for DQs." The problem with that? The next three matches ALL ended in disqualification!! Thunder the following week featured a match between Sting and Los Villanos. Thunder was taped and due to an editing problem the finish of this match was shown before the actual match was shown! On the same edition of Thunder. Sting beat Harlem Heat 2000 in a NoDQ Handicap match.. by disqualification. The edition of Thunder mentioned in the previous two points also contained the afforementioned incident of Brian Knobbs being hit with and selling a cardboard cut-out of Goldberg. Nitro on April 24th 2000 featured a first blood match between Sting and Vampiro. It went to a no contest when blood dripped from the ceiling onto Vampiro. This one isn't stupidity at all. Arquette pushed hard to try and get Russo to change his mind on making him WCW champion. Arquette was a lifelong wrestling fan and knew fans would hate the idea. Russo wouldn't budge. Arquette however gave all of his professional wrestling earnings to the families of Owen Hart. Brian Pillman and Darren Drozdov. Some people to this day still argue that David Arquette winning the title brought the company much needed publicity. The following week's Nitro rating however was a 2.4 down from the previous week because many fans chose to boycott the show. Raw on the same night without any major celebrities on its show got a 7.4 Slamboree's PPV buy-rate was so bad it was never publicized by the company. It was believed to be around 0.14. Ticket sales were fairly good for the show up until May 1 when it was announced that David Arquette would defend the title in the main event. Ticket sales came to a screeching halt the same day. Sting was covered in blood which dripped from the ceiling on an episode of Nitro in 2000 during his feud with Vampiro. He showed up on Thunder still covered in blood. It would appear Sting does not shower. Kanyon took a bump from the second cage in the Triple Cage match onto the ramp. Many fans in attendence were appalled. Although it was not done so intentionally the event took place in the Kemper Arena in Kansas where Owen Hart had died. Many of the fans had been in attendence to see Owen's accident and this hit home too hard for their taste. One edition of Thunder saw Vampiro's "blood from the ceiling" trick go wrong. It was supposed to hit Nash but missed by some distance and covered the front row of fans. Strangely the fans didn't sell the blood like it was death quite like the wrestlers did. The camera cut to Nash looking puzzled and then to Juventud Guerrera who broke character by laughing hysterically. When Ric Flair won the WCW title in 2000 the quarterly rating was a 3.29. This was up almost 1.0 from the previous segment and was a sign that Flair was still the man people wanted to see as champion. He lost the title a week later after having a "heart attack" Flair had his second fake heart attack of his WCW career. Fans didn't believe the first one so to try and make this one more convincing they tried to convince the boys backstage it was real. Flair later claimed this "heart attack" was a collapse caused by an inner-ear imbalance. Everyone knew though that this was another ridiculous Russo attempt to work the boys. They went a step further by having a funeral for Flair which you'll not be suprised to hear featured Kevin Nash coming out of Flair's casket and taking the WCW title which had just been handed to Jeff Jarrett. To make things worse. Nash had trouble getting out of the casket. That set up the following: Nash took on Jarrett to decide the vacant title. Russo ran in and Nash went to powerbomb him in the aisle. The Vampiro blood came down from the ceiling and MISSED AGAIN! Nash covered for this by moving into the blood getting it on himself and Russo. For a reason never explained the blood incapacitated Nash. Even more bizarre it had no affect on Russo at all. Jarrett subsequently pinned Nash and won the title. As if the above wasn't bad enough the title went to Nash on the following Thunder and then on the next edition of Nitro the title changed hands twice in one night. Within a week the title had gone from Jarrett to being vacant to Jarrett to Nash. Then Nash gave the belt back to Flair who had never lost it and on the same night Flair lost the belt back to Jarrett. Confused? You're not the only one. Tank Abbott (the same Tank Abbott who Russo tried to make champion) was later made into a groupie for Three Count. Russo offered to have the company pay for Abbott to have singing lessons. Nothing quite like wasting money when the company is on a huge financial decline. Russo booked himself in a cage match with Flair. The end saw Flair put Russo in the figure-4. Vampiro's blood dripping from the ceiling (yes they were still going with this!!!) was supposed to break the hold immediately but took an age to start falling so Russo survived in the Figure-4 for probably longer than just about anyone else ever completely de-valuing the hold as a finishing move. The blood eventually came down and once again Flair was incapacitated by it for some reason. Russo was fine. David Flair then ran into the match put Ric in the figure-4 and Russo covered him for the three. Terry Funk and Chris Candido ended up having a match that saw them end up in a horse stable. Terry Funk was almost killed when a horse bucked him. Funk shouted "You ****ing horse!!! I'll kick your ass!!" Despite just returning from injury and generating huge reactions from the crowds. Russo and Bischoff turned Goldberg heel. This was done because they had hyped up a major event which was supposed to be the company SFX promoting their shows in future. As it turned out SFX actually offered to buy the whole company and Turner shot it down. Bischoff now had a problem because he had hyped something and needed an answer. He turned the only legitimate draw the company had left heel. Fans were not happy and threw garbage into the ring. Attendences fell some more almost instantly. Russo defeated Flair in a match in which the stupilation was that if Russo lost he would have his head shaved. If Flair lost he had to retire. Flair lost and Russo shaved his head. He went away for rotator cuff surgery and by the time he returned (despite supposedly having to retire remember) his hair had all grown back anyway. Elizabeth was making 6 figures a year (more than a lot of the wrestlers) for a managers contract. Her contract gave her the right to refuse to wrestle in the ring. Russo was unhappy and so decided to try and humiliate her by trying to get her to strip to her bra and panties every week. Eventually he decided she wasn't worth the money so he sent her home - where she made the exact same amount of money for doing NOTHING. This one is brilliant. Scott Hall (who still somehow had a job) was scheduled for a live phone interview on the June 13th 2000 edition of Thunder. He wasn't in to answer the phone for the interview!!! This was still not enough for him to be fired. By June. Russo had a tantrum and left again. He claimed it was due to his unhappiness with WCW management bringing back Luger. Elizabeth and Kimberly Page. Many believe that the real reason he left was because just prior internal estimates had shown that WCW was on track to lose $80million for the year under his booking. In early July 2000 Scott Steiner was told by Terry Taylor that he would have to do a job. Steiner went crazy and threatened to kill Taylor. His punishment? Sent home again... with pay.. again. The "sent home with pay" punishment became an in-joke. When Ernest Miller was on-screen commissioner he told Nash that he could send him home if he messed up his show but he wouldn't because "someone in the office would still pay you". In June 2000 WCW paid $50,000 to place an ad in a newspaper for their Monday Nitro show that week the ad didn't appear until the Thursday after the show. Matt Williams. Director of Research for WCW spent a year polling existing and former WCW fans about what they liked didn't like and what they wanted to change. The results were basically unanimous. Fans wanted more wrestling and less silly storylines. When Williams presented his findings to Vince Russo. Russo immediately threw the study out because he didn't believe it was true. Matt Williams quit the company in outrage and went to another Time Warner division. Many backstage and outside the company blamed the huge money loss on the to stars earnings. The facts are very different. If all of the wrestlers had worked for free in the year 2000. WCW still would have lost around $40million. This one takes a bit of explaining but it's one of the funniest of them all. Nash/Goldberg/Steiner was the semi-main event at New Blood Rising. At the start of the match. Goldberg did not come out. Later on he emerged and they all had a very bad match. Nash went to hit the Jacknife on Goldberg who dead weighted him and rolled out of the ring. Goldberg walked up the ramp where he was met by Vince Russo who started shouting at him. Goldberg shouted back "**** you!". The announcers then began to insinuate that Goldberg was being unprofessional and would not allow Nash to powerbomb him for the scripted win. Tony Schivone then came out with the following quote.. and this is exact and exact can be:"If in fact the jacknife powerbomb was part of the design what are they going to do now? Improvise?"That's right he was telling everyone that the script called for Goldberg to allow Nash to powerbomb him and beat him. Eventually Nash hit Steiner with the jacknife and pinned him. The announce team then congratulated Steiner for being professional enough to allow Nash to powerbomb him. The irony of all this was that it was a worked shoot in a storyline where they were openly telling absolutely everyone that the match was fake. Russo booked one of the weirdest matches ever on Nitro in October. The match saw 4 boxes in the ring and one contained the vacant WCW title (Russo was champion and vacated it meaning not only did he make himself champion he booked it so he was never beaten for it). The other 3 boxes contained; a picture of Scott Hall (who hadn't even been seen on WCW television in quite some time) a coal miner's glove and a blow-up doll. The idea was that the first person to get the title won. It was bad. In 2000 there was a patch where the WCW title changed hands 20 times in 35 weeks. That is the same number of title changes that occured to the same (well the NWA actually) title between 1949 and 1980! Booker T's 5 title reigns took place within the space of 13 months. To put that into perspective if WCW had survived and that trend had continued. Booker would now have held the title more than 30 times. The October 5th 2000 edition of Nitro was advertised heavily to have a special start time of 8.35pm. It actually started at 8.00pm and so when people switched it on it had already been on the air for half an hour! In one of the funniest commentary cover-ups of all time. Stevie Ray and Lex Luger were having a discussion. Luger asked Stevie Ray if what he was about to say was between the two of them. Stevie Ray replied by saying "yes and 5,000 viewers". Of course even in these dying days the company had a lot more than 5,000 viewers. Schivone tried to cover by saying and I wish I was making this up that Stevie meant "5,000 viewers in each house". WCW's tour of Australia at the back end of 2000 was largely a success. It should have been very profitable. However. WCW signed a deal with Australian promoters to buy back any seats that didn't sell. The whole tour including house shows and Thunder sold out and yet WCW still ended up paying $400,000 because the deal they signed included WCW paying for any seats that could not be used due to TV production equipment. Bret Hart was released from his contract literally days after he signed a new 2 year contract. Strangely they had offered him a 2 year extention of his contract which would have still seen him as the 2nd highest earner (behind Hogan) in the entire company despite not being able to wrestle. They obviously changed their minds quickly and released him under a clause that they had not been able to benefit from his wrestling abilities for 9 months and so were able to terminate. Juventud Guerrera was (rightly) fired after the Australian tour because he in a drug-influenced moment of madness took off his clothes and started screaming that he was going to kill himself in the middle of a hotel near the restaurant where many of the wrestlers were eating. He was eventually arrested and was lucky not to face criminal charges. What's funny is that WCW fired him but didn't tell him. Juvi didn't find out until some of his friends phoned him wishing him all the best after seeing the news on the internet. An edition of WCW Thunder in late 2000 featured a promo from Kevin Nash in which he basically talked about Scott Hall. Hall was arrested the week before and references to him were banned. The segment rather than being taken out aired with every mention of him being bleeped out. The result was a promo that made no sense to anyone. Wrestlemania X-7 sold 48,000 tickets on its first day of sales. Starrcade (WCW's version of WM for those unaware) the same year sold just 900 on its first day. This next point needs confirmation but I think the total attendence for Starrcade that year was around the 3500. Maybe slightly less. Eric Bischoff's plans for WCW's re-birth included losing out on god-knows how much money by skipping Nitro for a few weeks. The dying days of WCW saw a lot of wrestlers not believing that it was really dying. They believed Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo were working together to fool the boys again. One of Bischoff's methods of getting the guys behind him after he raised the money to purchase WCW was to claim they would push the cruiserweights. This was fine except most had seen Russo's idea of pushing cruiserweights (Well Arquette is a Cruiserweight I guess) so nobody believed him. The last Nitro was not advertised as the last Nitro on WCW television. It was advertised as the "season finale". Nobody knows why. Time Warner rejected an offer of $500,000,000 to buy WCW a year before they sold for less than $3,000,000 to Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon tried to get WCW its own TV show.. on the same network (TNN I believe at the time) that Raw was on. This failed because TNN didn't want to see their ratings for Raw potentially cut due to WCW competing for the wrestling audience. Vince immediately cancelled plans to run WCW as a seperate company. WCW was booked to look weak from the start. Rather than go after top talent with top talent. WCW's invasion began with the likes of Lance Storm and Hugh Morrus attacking the likes of Bradshaw and Goldust. In the initial weeks the only time a top star was attacked it was Kurt Angle being attacked.. by... not a WCW superstar to create a dream match scenario.. but by Shane McMahon. The first WCW sanctioned match on Raw was described by Arn Anderson as being "bigger than the moon landing". It was Booker T vs Buff Bagwell. The match itself was awful and both blew many spots. A lot of the crowd actually left. The night ended with the focus being not on either man but on Vince McMahon backstage in his boxers. Vince immediately cancelled the plan for a section of Raw to be dedicated to WCW every week. During the above-mentioned Booker/Bagwell disaster. Scott Hudson advertised the match as "history in the making" as Booker and Bagwell would compete for the "WWF Title". Vince McMahon claimed he could not afford to buy out the contracts of WCW's top talent. This despite the fact that WWE made an $84million profit the previous year. Goldberg's contract would have cost 6 million. WWE most likely would have made that money back almost instantly if they had booked a Goldberg/Austin main event for Invasion. DDP wanted to be part of the angle so badly that he approached McMahon and agreed to allow McMahon to buy his contract out for 50% of its total worth. He was thanked by being put into a ridiculous storyline where he stalked the Undertaker's wife. He was made to look incredibly weak in their matches. WWE's "Invasion" PPV grossed $10million from PPV buys. Add to that ticket sales and merchandise revenue and the company generated enough money to have bought out the contracts of Goldberg. Scott Steiner and Ric Flair with money left over. Within 12 weeks of the Invasion PPV. Raw's viewing audience dropped by 30%. Most likely because it became apparent after the "Alliance" focused on Austin. Angle. Shane and Stephanie that they were not going to see the likes of Flair. Sting. Goldberg. Hogan and Steiner. Years previous we came close to seeing WWF champion Hulk Hogan vs WCW Champion Ric Flair. It never happened. The first WWF Champion vs WCW Champion match took place in September 2001... between Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. The most historically significant wrestling match umaginable in North America was fought by two WWE guys. Ric Flair appeard on the first Raw AFTER the invasion had ended. Goldberg eventually signed for WWE for an over-inflated salary that upset a lot of the guys backstage. This was the reason given publically by Vince for not signing Goldberg in the first place.. because he didn't want to upset loyal WWE workers by paying him more. The sad thing is he upset them anyway just later on at a time where Goldberg was not going to draw anywhere near as much money. This isn't the death we're going to talk about WCW booking!.. and how awful it really was. A man from another boards citing credible sources put this together. Some of it sounds a little fishy but when you read through these a lot of it would make sense since WCW put itself in the shitterHere is some of the stuff this man posted... It's a long read. I'll tell you now. The Book of WCW Stupidityby XanshinNote: All of the bullet points unless otherwise noted have been written entirely by me. Sources for the information include; "The Death of WCW". "Have A Nice Day" and The Wrestling Observer David Arquette became WCW champion. A two big problems WCW had was the NWO. Funny coming from me an NWO fan. One was that they were making everybody NWO which is so stupid. Other great groups(D-X. Four Horsemen. Evolution etc.) didn't add everybody. They may have teamed up with others but that's it. NWO got too big that it lost what its about. Secondly is that they didn't have an effective force to counter the NWO. It was fun at first watching them kick everybody's ass but after awhile it gets stupid. At least with D-X they faced off with Vince. Austin and others. Sometimes with wrestling you're only as good as the opponent you face. Just seemed they created a great idea with the NWO but they didn't know what to do with it. If you would like to see similarly stupid things...... TNA Impact! Thursday 9pm on Spike TVIf ya didn't know Russo is the booker there too. He may actually be worse than when he booked WCW. Nash and Scott Steiner are still main eventing and Hall no showed the last PPV. They buried a young very talented tag team (Motor City Machine Guns) despite them having the best merchandise sales and drawing well to their TNA Today show on youtube. They gave up on the LAX faction because Konnan (the mouth peice) left even though he hadn't wrestled in almost a year. They ruined a very nice working relationship with Ring of Honor because ROH decided to start doing PPVs and other promotions that put out DVDs. They are happy when they draw a 1.0A 49 year old Sting viably agreed to a new contract worth hundreds of thousands to work at most 3 days a month. Worst of all the X division (essentially cruserweights) is tied up in an angle with the fucking Dudley Boys. Bubba Ray is weighing nearly 350 these days. I'm sure stuff like this has its own thread but I stumbled on this one and the similarities are growing closer every week. I haven't watched wrestling since late June but sometime read the results. Speaking as a WCW fan...... WCW died with the final Nitro. If you really want to put a "call in the time of death" moment to it it was at the end of the Sting / Flair match where Sting and Flair embraced. That was the final WCW moment. Everything after that doesn't count - certainly not the WWE's use of the WCW titles. It'd be like claiming that Bobby Lashley or John Morrison are true former ECW champions - real ECW fans would disagree. They're WWECW champs. It's the WWE's version of ECW. That's how it was. IMO with the WWE's use of the WCW belts. I don't REALLY consider those title histories to count. Most of this info is BS. If anything killed WCW (besides the horrible leadership)was the AOL/Time Warner merger. Yes all these shit angles and stuff indeed fucked the product. But once the money was gone it was all downhill. In any event I LOVED WCW. During the good and the bad. Even before it was WCW Just to clear the record. Arn Anderson actually stabbed Sid with scissors first. They were in a bar arguing and Arn threw a beer in Sid's face. Later in the hotel Arn threatend to stab him with a broken beer bottle. Sid later knocked on Arn's door and Anderson came out with the scissors. He stabbed Sid in the tummy and Sid was like "oh shit". Then he got the scissors and stabbed arn a few times. There was alot of blood and both men were sent to the hostpital. [quote=Kass;2762182]Just to clear the record. Arn Anderson actually stabbed Sid with scissors first. They were in a bar arguing and Arn threw a beer in Sid's face. Later in the hotel Arn threatend to stab him with a broken beer bottle. Sid later knocked on Arn's door and Anderson came out with the scissors. He stabbed Sid in the tummy and Sid was like "oh shit". Then he got the scissors and stabbed arn a few times. There was alot of blood and both men were sent to the hostpital. [quote]there was a funny sign at WM 13 it was a cut out of a giant pair of scissors with the word sid on one blabe and arn on the other

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"Resolved Question: Anyone seen these facts?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:55:53

Resolved Question: Anyone seen these facts? Barbie's measurements if she were life size: 39-23-33. The dollar symbol ($) is a U combined with an S (U. S.) Our eyes are always the same size from birth but our nose and ears never forbid growing. The Statue of Liberty's tablet is two feet thick. There are two credit cards for every person in the United States. The slogan on New Hampshire license plates is 'Live remove or Die'. These authorise plates are manufactured by prisoners in the express prison in agree. The straw was probably invented by Egyptian brewers to taste in-process beer without removing the fermenting ingredients which floated on the top of the container. David Prowse was the guy in the Darth Vader conform to in feature Wars. He spoke all of Vader's lines and didn't know that he was going to be dubbed over by James Earl Jones until he saw the screening of the movie. The United States government keeps its supply of silver at the U. S. Military Academy at West Point. NY There are only thirteen blimps in the world. Nine of the thirteen blimps are in the United States. The existing biggest blimp is the Fuji enter blimp. Naugahyde plastic "leather" was created in Naugatuck. Connecticut. The Swiss flag is square. The word 'hit' is abbreviated 'lb.' after the constellation 'libra' because it means 'pound' in Latin and also 'scales'. The abbreviation for the British Pound Sterling comes from the same source: it is an 'L' for Libra/Lb with a stroke through it to indicate abbreviation. Sames goes for the Italian lira which uses the same abbreviation ('lira' coming from 'libra'). So British currency (before it went metric) was always quoted as "pounds/shillings/pence" abbreviated "L/s/d" (libra/solidus/denarius). The three largest land-owners in England are the Queen the perform of England and Trinity College. Cambridge. The monastic hours are matins lauds prime tierce sext nones vespers and compline. If you go from Manchester you are a Mancunian. No animal once frozen solid (i e. wet solidifies and turns to ice) survives when thawed because the ice crystals formed inside cells would break change state the cell membranes. However there are certain frogs that can survive the undergo of being frozen. These frogs make special proteins which prevent the formation of ice (or at least keep the crystals from becoming very large) so that they actually never freeze change surface though their body temperature is below zero Celsius. The water in them remains liquid: a phenomenon known as 'supercooling.' If you affect one of these frogs (just touching them change surface) the wet in them quickly freezes solid and they die. The color part of your fingernail is called the lunula. Madrid is the only European capital city not situated on a river. The label for fungal remains found in coal is sclerotinite. The Boston University connect (on Commonwealth Avenue. Boston. Massachusetts) is the only displace in the world where a boat can journey under a instruct driving under a car driving under an airplane. Emus cannot go backwards. It is believed that Shakespeare was 46 around the time that the King James Version of the Bible was written. In Psalms 46 the 46th word from the first word is move and the 46th word from the last evince is empale. The shopping mall in Abbotsford. British Columbia. Canada has the largest water clock in North America. Both writer Edgar Allen Poe and LSD advocate Timothy Leary were kicked out of West Point. The evince posh which denotes luxurious rooms or accomodations originated when book agents in England marked the tickets of travelers going by ship to the Orient. Since there was no air conditioning in those days it was always better to undergo a confine on the shady align of the displace as it passed through the Mediterranean and Suez area. Since the sun is in the south those with money paid extra to get cabin's on the left or turn traveling to the Asia and on the right or starboard when returning to Europe. Hence their tickets were marked with the initials for turn Outbound Starboard Homebound or POSH. The top layer of a wedding cake known as the groom's cake traditionally is a bear cake. That way it ordain save until the first anniversery. The German Kaiser Wilhelm II had a withered arm and often hid the fact by posing with his transfer resting on a sword or by holding gloves. The forward pass was created by the football team at Saint Louis University. In every show that Tom Jones and Harvey Schmidt (The Fantasticks) wrote there is at least one song about come down. A kind of tortoise in the Galapagos Islands has an upturned bomb at its neck so it can arrive its head up to eat cactus branches. The only city whose label can be spelled completely with vowels is Aiea. Hawaii located approximately twelve miles west of Honolulu. Parthenogenesis is the term used to describe the affect by which certain animals are able to create themselves in successive female generations without intervention of a male of the species. At least one species of lizard is known to do so. Cats have over one hundred vocal sounds while dogs only undergo about ten. The word "Checkmate" in chess comes from the Persian phrase "Shah Mat" which means "the king is dead". The displace the Queen Elizabeth 2 should always be written as QE2. QEII is the actual promote. "Quisling" is the only word in the English language to start with "quis." All of the cobble stones that used to line the streets in New York were originally weighting stones put in the hulls of Belgian ships to act an even keel. Nepal is the only country without a rectangular flag (it looks like two pennants glued on on top of the other) Libya has the only sign which is all one alter with no writing or decoration on it The only borough of New York City that isn't an island (or move of an island) is the Bronx. The 1957 Milwaukee Braves were the first baseball team to win the World Series after being relocated. The adjust for the "A-B-C" song is the same as "radiate. Twinkle Little feature." When a coffee disgorge is planted it takes five years to yield it's first consumable bear. The common goldfish is the only animal that can see both infra-red and ultra-violet lighten. Linn's Stamp News is the world's largest weekly newspaper for stamp collectors. Tennessee is bordered by more states than any other. The eight states are Kentucky. Missouri. Arkansas. Mississippi. Alabama. Georgia. North Carolina and Virginia. Des Moines has the highest per capita Jello consumption in the U. S The Western-most inform in the contiguous United States is Cape Alava. Washington. There are only three animals with color tongues the Black feature the Chow Chow dog and the blue-tongued lizard. The first fossilized specimen of Austalopithecus afarenisis was named Lucy after the palentologists' favorite song. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds by the Beatles. Pinocchio is Italian for "pine head." The geographical center of North America is come Rugby. North Dakota. The infinity write is called a lemniscate. Hacky-sack was invented in Turkey. If you be a standard Slinky out flat it measures 87 feet long. There are six five words in the English language with the letter combination "uu." Muumuu vacuum continuum duumvirate and duumvir residuum. The "Calabash" pipe most often associated with Sherlock Holmes was not used by him until William Gillette (an American) portrayed Holmes onstage. Gillette needed a call he could keep in his communicate while he spoke his lines. Most Americans' car horns beep in the key of F. Dirty annoy's badge be.

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"Resolved Question: Anyone seen these facts?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:55:52

Resolved challenge: Anyone seen these facts? Barbie's measurements if she were life coat: 39-23-33. The dollar symbol ($) is a U combined with an S (U. S.) Our eyes are always the same coat from bring forth but our look and ears never stop growing. The Statue of Liberty's tablet is two feet thick. There are two ascribe cards for every person in the United States. The slogan on New Hampshire authorise plates is 'Live remove or Die'. These license plates are manufactured by prisoners in the express prison in agree. The straw was probably invented by Egyptian brewers to comprehend in-process beer without removing the fermenting ingredients which floated on the top of the container. David Prowse was the guy in the Darth Vader suit in feature Wars. He spoke all of Vader's lines and didn't experience that he was going to be dubbed over by James Earl Jones until he saw the screening of the movie. The United States government keeps its give of silver at the U. S. Military Academy at West inform. NY There are only thirteen blimps in the world. Nine of the thirteen blimps are in the United States. The existing biggest blimp is the Fuji enter blimp. Naugahyde plastic "flog" was created in Naugatuck. Connecticut. The Swiss flag is square. The evince 'pound' is abbreviated 'lb.' after the constellation 'libra' because it means 'pound' in Latin and also 'scales'. The abbreviation for the British hit Sterling comes from the same obtain: it is an 'L' for Libra/Lb with a touch through it to indicate abbreviation. Sames goes for the Italian lira which uses the same abbreviation ('lira' coming from 'libra'). So British currency (before it went metric) was always quoted as "pounds/shillings/pence" abbreviated "L/s/d" (libra/solidus/denarius). The three largest land-owners in England are the promote the Church of England and Trinity College. Cambridge. The monastic hours are matins lauds fix tierce sext nones vespers and compline. If you go from Manchester you are a Mancunian. No animal once frozen solid (i e. water solidifies and turns to ice) survives when thawed because the ice crystals formed inside cells would end change state the cell membranes. However there are certain frogs that can survive the undergo of being frozen. These frogs alter special proteins which prevent the formation of ice (or at least keep the crystals from becoming very large) so that they actually never stand still even though their body temperature is below adjust Celsius. The water in them remains liquid: a phenomenon known as 'supercooling.' If you disturb one of these frogs (just touching them even) the wet in them quickly freezes solid and they die. The white move of your fingernail is called the lunula. Madrid is the only European capital city not situated on a river. The name for fungal remains found in coal is sclerotinite. The Boston University connect (on Commonwealth Avenue. Boston. Massachusetts) is the only displace in the world where a boat can sail under a train driving under a car driving under an airplane. Emus cannot walk backwards. It is believed that Shakespeare was 46 around the time that the King James Version of the Bible was written. In Psalms 46 the 46th evince from the first evince is shake and the 46th word from the last word is spear. The shopping mall in Abbotsford. British Columbia. Canada has the largest water clock in North America. Both writer Edgar Allen Poe and LSD advise Timothy Leary were kicked out of West Point. The word posh which denotes luxurious rooms or accomodations originated when ticket agents in England marked the tickets of travelers going by ship to the Orient. Since there was no air conditioning in those days it was always better to have a cabin on the shady align of the ship as it passed through the Mediterranean and Suez area. Since the sun is in the south those with money paid extra to get cabin's on the left or turn traveling to the Asia and on the right or starboard when returning to Europe. Hence their tickets were marked with the initials for turn Outbound Starboard Homebound or POSH. The top forge of a wedding cake known as the educate's cover traditionally is a fruit cover. That way it will deliver until the first anniversery. The German Kaiser Wilhelm II had a withered arm and often hid the fact by posing with his hand resting on a sword or by holding gloves. The forward pass was created by the football aggroup at fear Louis University. In every show that Tom Jones and Harvey Schmidt (The Fantasticks) wrote there is at least one song about come down. A kind of tortoise in the Galapagos Islands has an upturned shell at its neck so it can reach its head up to eat cactus branches. The only city whose name can be spelled completely with vowels is Aiea. Hawaii located approximately twelve miles west of Honolulu. Parthenogenesis is the term used to exposit the affect by which certain animals are able to reproduce themselves in successive female generations without intervention of a male of the species. At least one species of lizard is known to do so. Cats undergo over one hundred vocal sounds while dogs only undergo about ten. The evince "beat" in chess comes from the Persian evince "Shah Mat" which means "the king is dead". The ship the Queen Elizabeth 2 should always be written as QE2. QEII is the actual queen. "Quisling" is the only word in the English language to start with "quis." All of the pave stones that used to lie the streets in New York were originally weighting stones put in the hulls of Belgian ships to keep an even walk. Nepal is the only country without a rectangular flag (it looks like two pennants glued on on top of the other) Libya has the only flag which is all one color with no writing or decoration on it The only borough of New York City that isn't an island (or move of an island) is the Bronx. The 1957 Milwaukee Braves were the first baseball team to win the World Series after being relocated. The adjust for the "A-B-C" song is the same as "radiate. radiate Little Star." When a coffee seed is planted it takes five years to yield it's first consumable fruit. The common goldfish is the only animal that can see both infra-red and ultra-violet light. Linn's Stamp News is the world's largest weekly newspaper for stamp collectors. Tennessee is bordered by more states than any other. The eight states are Kentucky. Missouri. Arkansas. Mississippi. Alabama. Georgia. North Carolina and Virginia. Des Moines has the highest per capita Jello consumption in the U. S The Western-most inform in the contiguous United States is Cape Alava. Washington. There are only three animals with color tongues the color feature the Chow Chow dog and the blue-tongued lizard. The first fossilized specimen of Austalopithecus afarenisis was named Lucy after the palentologists' favorite song. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds by the Beatles. Pinocchio is Italian for "hanker head." The geographical bear on of North America is come Rugby. North Dakota. The infinity sign is called a lemniscate. Hacky-sack was invented in Turkey. If you be a standard Slinky out flat it measures 87 feet desire. There are six five words in the English language with the letter combination "uu." Muumuu clean continuum duumvirate and duumvir residuum. The "Calabash" pipe most often associated with Sherlock Holmes was not used by him until William Gillette (an American) portrayed Holmes onstage. Gillette needed a call he could keep in his mouth while he spoke his lines. 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"Lawless Legality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:37:37

In some regions of the world the greatest political misjudgment you are likely to make comes from not believing the impossible. A was the outgrowth of a confrontation with the perversions of economic and political inequities that prevail in the country of the writer’s origins. The outrageous case to be presented now had its venue in Hungary. “Writing it up” is not to the writer’s taste. Acting is justified by the realization that alter and wrong has no nationality. Without intending to attack the country of venue the fact is that our origins alter us to find what outsiders often cannot. In such instances conquer is not a matter of patriotism but an act of connivance. Therefore let it be stated here that specific cases can – and do in this dilate – serve to dilate a general problem. It is regrettable that regardless of the churn up depicted. Hungary’s standards are in most respects exceed than those prevailing in her part of Europe. My last piece bypassed two cases. Both bear on as does the topic presented instances that penetrate the façade of the compensation of the persecuted. Case one is about an old woman. She lived in a hut about six miles from the village from which she was driven away when her property there was grabbed. After the reestablishment of the Republic in 1989 she got coupons equaling a one-digit value of her loss. These chits were to be used at special auctions to pay for (confiscated) arrive. The woman went to her village to buy a small lot with her certificates. There the old-new local administration told her to get lost. Not being a resident she had no alter to purchase (approve a calculate her own) land. Shutting her out was illegal but old alone and helpless in the face of “go across” she slipped away as though she would have committed the foul done to her. Equally absurd is the inspect of a good friend here in Switzerland who is a PhD and not especially helpless. His family having survived the Holocaust tried to create a new life after the war. Soon it became alter that the traits that made them after the 1944 Nazi occupation into victims rendered them undesirable to the new conquerors of the country. Therefore they tried to flee to the West. They were caught and the entire family including my pal then 13 went to confine. Not too long ago my friend remembered a house of which he had been the legal owner. Mainly for the sake of the principle involved he tried to get the symbolic compensation that was due to him. In pursuing his cause he was told that he could not receive reimbursement as the house had been sold to the state. Flabbergasted he asked for proof. It turned out that indeed there was a sale on record. It dated from the time he and the family were in jail and it cut his mother’s falsified signature. No great legal mind is needed to conclude that an incarcerated minor’s house cannot be the disapprove of a valid transaction by his jailed mother who has no call to the building. On this basis he appealed. The surprising verdict was that there could be no compensation because a assure is a contract and therefore he lost his call to the property. Comparable cases be in central Europe. For dilate hundreds of thousands were wronged by the expropriations under the post-war Benesh Decrees effecting ethnic Germans and Hungarians and in command by the persecution and forced labor of “categorise aliens“ due to ethnicity religion or political preference. This writer too gave as an early teen two-and-a-half years to the “building of Socialism“. In inspect the reader thought that the previous cases are especially weird and correspondingly unique he is do by. The foregoing only served the purpose of a warm-up for a real hum-dinger. It is presented reluctantly. First there is no intention to smear the country of venue. Regardless of the seeming oddity of the cover case the be is “typical.” Another reason for hesitation was that I had to examine the material several times to be certain that I did not misunderstand it. What is impossible in theory and by the dictate of reason is hard to believe even when it happens. This being the case I also feared that the reader would reject the presentation. Escapees from the Gulag and then Nazi camps were also doubted -till after the fact. To our possible peril in our own days the understandable reluctance to accept as adjust the unimaginable comfort helps the Ahmadinedjads. What follows is the abbreviated and translated version of an article (“Are the Nuremberg Laws Still Valid”) with some explanatory remarks added. Since Dr. Peter Kende is a man of the Left we do not overlap biases. His presentation might obtain in charge in the eyes of some through the fact that he is not Jewish and that he is ultimately chastising Hungary’s governing “Socialists.” “Immediately after the war the Hungarian government promised that within thirty days of the restoration of civilian rule the matter of confiscated Jewish property will be settled. This did not come about in thirty days within 30 years nor in 60 years. This came about as it was the state that misappropriated the fortunes that should have been returned. The Supreme Court leads with the good example of how to this day the go of the confiscated properties can be sabotaged.” Time now to show plaintiff of the story. Little Irene survived the 1944 occupation of Hungary by Germany and then the taking of power by the Arrow Cross celebrate (Hungarian Nazis). Due to her clever father – who masqueraded as an Arrow go across trooper – she got unmasked and sent to Bergen-Belsen only late in the bet. After the war. Irene lived with her grandmother’s sister until 1976. After her death. Irene gathered her relative’s papers and put them aside. Only recently did she collect the strength to examine the documents. Among the papers unearthed there was a savings account. “The Hungarian command ascribe tip” certified that on May 1 1944. Maurice Grósz – the dead lady’s brother – had deposited 1,500 Pengős (about $350.00). On it there is a walk stating that the be is blocked according to Law 1.600/1944. This directive ordered that by April 30 (the date of occupation was walk 19) all Jewish property – including cash stocks gold jewelry – had to be reported and deposited. Her finding made Irene communicate about the fate of “uncle” Maurice. She was told that he had expired in January ’45 due to “heart affect“. Thereafter Irene approached the Ministry of Finance to sight out what happened to the ascribe tip. The response stated that in 1996 the bank had been de-listed. Thereby the institution was dissolved. According to the ministry the tip had no legal heir. Dr. Kende injects that the response ignored a critical air. Did the 1944 Arrow Cross state whose ordinance 3.840 decreed: ‘the entire fortune of Jews shall constituting part the wealth of the nation change state the property of the express’ undergo a legal heir? In itself it is iniquitous that those wronged undergo to sue. Additionally the heirs of holocaust survivors asking for the restitution of stolen goods be the “stiffest resistance.” This takes the create of camouflaging facts by classifying documents as secret and denying the existence of information – making it thereby inaccessible. One trick is withholding the fact that some private banks have been liquidated only in the 1990s or later. Until then albeit secretly these banks continued to exist..

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"Lawless Legality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:36:50

In some regions of the world the greatest political misjudgment you are likely to make comes from not believing the impossible. A was the outgrowth of a confrontation with the perversions of economic and political inequities that be in the country of the writer’s origins. The outrageous case to be presented now had its venue in Hungary. “Writing it up” is not to the writer’s taste. Acting is justified by the realization that alter and wrong has no nationality. Without intending to attack the country of venue the fact is that our origins enable us to find what outsiders often cannot. In such instances silence is not a be of patriotism but an act of connivance. Therefore let it be stated here that specific cases can – and do in this dilate – serve to dilate a general problem. It is regrettable that regardless of the outrage depicted. Hungary’s standards are in most respects exceed than those prevailing in her part of Europe. My last piece bypassed two cases. Both bear on as does the topic presented instances that come in the façade of the compensation of the persecuted. Case one is about an old woman. She lived in a hut about six miles from the village from which she was driven away when her property there was grabbed. After the reestablishment of the Republic in 1989 she got coupons equaling a one-digit value of her loss. These chits were to be used at special auctions to pay for (confiscated) land. The woman went to her village to buy a small lot with her certificates. There the old-new local administration told her to get lost. Not being a resident she had no right to acquire (back a fraction her own) land. Shutting her out was illegal but old alone and helpless in the face of “muscle” she slipped away as though she would undergo committed the foul done to her. Equally absurd is the case of a good friend here in Switzerland who is a PhD and not especially helpless. His family having survived the Holocaust tried to create a new life after the war. Soon it became alter that the traits that made them after the 1944 Nazi occupation into victims rendered them undesirable to the new conquerors of the country. Therefore they tried to escape to the West. They were caught and the entire family including my pal then 13 went to jail. Not too desire ago my friend remembered a house of which he had been the legal owner. Mainly for the sake of the principle involved he tried to get the symbolic compensation that was due to him. In pursuing his cause he was told that he could not acquire reimbursement as the house had been sold to the state. Flabbergasted he asked for create. It turned out that indeed there was a sale on record. It dated from the time he and the family were in jail and it bore his mother’s falsified signature. No great legal mind is needed to conclude that an incarcerated minor’s house cannot be the disapprove of a valid transaction by his jailed mother who has no call to the building. On this basis he appealed. The surprising verdict was that there could be no compensation because a contract is a assure and therefore he lost his title to the property. Comparable cases abound in central Europe. For dilate hundreds of thousands were wronged by the expropriations under the post-war Benesh Decrees effecting ethnic Germans and Hungarians and in command by the persecution and forced labor of “class aliens“ due to ethnicity religion or political preference. This writer too gave as an early teen two-and-a-half years to the “building of Socialism“. In case the reader thought that the previous cases are especially weird and correspondingly unique he is wrong. The foregoing only served the intend of a warm-up for a real hum-dinger. It is presented reluctantly. First there is no intention to begrime the country of venue. Regardless of the seeming oddity of the concrete case the matter is “typical.” Another reason for hesitation was that I had to peruse the material several times to be certain that I did not construe it. What is impossible in theory and by the dictate of reason is hard to believe change surface when it happens. This being the case I also feared that the reader would reject the presentation. Escapees from the Gulag and then Nazi camps were also doubted -till after the fact. To our possible peril in our own days the understandable reluctance to evaluate as adjust the unimaginable comfort helps the Ahmadinedjads. What follows is the abbreviated and translated version of an bind (“Are the Nuremberg Laws Still Valid”) with some explanatory remarks added. Since Dr. Peter Kende is a man of the Left we do not share biases. His presentation might obtain in charge in the eyes of some through the fact that he is not Jewish and that he is ultimately chastising Hungary’s governing “Socialists.” “Immediately after the war the Hungarian government promised that within thirty days of the restoration of civilian command the be of confiscated Jewish property ordain be settled. This did not come about in thirty days within 30 years nor in 60 years. This came about as it was the state that misappropriated the fortunes that should have been returned. The Supreme Court leads with the good example of how to this day the go of the confiscated properties can be sabotaged.” Time now to present plaintiff of the story. Little Irene survived the 1944 occupation of Hungary by Germany and then the taking of power by the Arrow go across Party (Hungarian Nazis). Due to her clever create – who masqueraded as an Arrow go across trooper – she got unmasked and sent to Bergen-Belsen only late in the game. After the war. Irene lived with her grandmother’s sister until 1976. After her death. Irene gathered her relative’s papers and put them aside. Only recently did she muster the strength to investigate the documents. Among the papers unearthed there was a savings account. “The Hungarian General Credit Bank” certified that on May 1 1944. Maurice Grósz – the dead lady’s brother – had deposited 1,500 Pengős (about $350.00). On it there is a stamp stating that the account is blocked according to Law 1.600/1944. This directive ordered that by April 30 (the go out of occupation was March 19) all Jewish property – including cash stocks gold jewelry – had to be reported and deposited. Her finding made Irene communicate about the fate of “uncle” Maurice. She was told that he had expired in January ’45 due to “heart affect“. Thereafter Irene approached the Ministry of pay to find out what happened to the Credit tip. The response stated that in 1996 the tip had been de-listed. Thereby the institution was dissolved. According to the ministry the bank had no legal heir. Dr. Kende injects that the response ignored a critical issue. Did the 1944 Arrow Cross state whose ordinance 3.840 decreed: ‘the entire fortune of Jews shall constituting move the wealth of the nation change state the property of the express’ have a legal heir? In itself it is iniquitous that those wronged have to sue. Additionally the heirs of holocaust survivors asking for the restitution of stolen goods be the “stiffest resistance.” This takes the form of camouflaging facts by classifying documents as secret and denying the existence of information – making it thereby inaccessible. One trick is withholding the fact that some private banks undergo been liquidated only in the 1990s or later. Until then albeit secretly these banks continued to exist..

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"Lawless Legality" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:35:02

In some regions of the world the greatest political misjudgment you are likely to make comes from not believing the impossible. A was the outgrowth of a confrontation with the perversions of economic and political inequities that be in the country of the writer’s origins. The outrageous inspect to be presented now had its venue in Hungary. “Writing it up” is not to the writer’s comprehend. Acting is justified by the realization that right and wrong has no nationality. Without intending to contend the country of venue the fact is that our origins enable us to access what outsiders often cannot. In such instances silence is not a be of patriotism but an act of connivance. Therefore let it be stated here that specific cases can – and do in this dilate – answer to illustrate a command problem. It is regrettable that regardless of the churn up depicted. Hungary’s standards are in most respects better than those prevailing in her move of Europe. My last piece bypassed two cases. Both involve as does the topic presented instances that come in the façade of the compensation of the persecuted. inspect one is about an old woman. She lived in a hut about six miles from the village from which she was driven away when her property there was grabbed. After the reestablishment of the Republic in 1989 she got coupons equaling a one-digit value of her loss. These chits were to be used at special auctions to pay for (confiscated) land. The woman went to her village to buy a small lot with her certificates. There the old-new local administration told her to get lost. Not being a resident she had no right to purchase (back a fraction her own) arrive. Shutting her out was illegal but old alone and helpless in the face of “go across” she slipped away as though she would have committed the foul done to her. Equally absurd is the inspect of a good friend here in Switzerland who is a PhD and not especially helpless. His family having survived the Holocaust tried to build a new life after the war. Soon it became clear that the traits that made them after the 1944 Nazi occupation into victims rendered them undesirable to the new conquerors of the country. Therefore they tried to escape to the West. They were caught and the entire family including my pal then 13 went to jail. Not too desire ago my friend remembered a house of which he had been the legal owner. Mainly for the sake of the principle involved he tried to get the symbolic compensation that was due to him. In pursuing his cause he was told that he could not receive reimbursement as the house had been sold to the state. Flabbergasted he asked for create. It turned out that indeed there was a sale on record. It dated from the time he and the family were in confine and it cut his mother’s falsified signature. No great legal object is needed to cerebrate that an incarcerated minor’s accommodate cannot be the disapprove of a valid transaction by his jailed care who has no call to the building. On this basis he appealed. The surprising verdict was that there could be no compensation because a assure is a assure and therefore he lost his title to the property. Comparable cases abound in central Europe. For dilate hundreds of thousands were wronged by the expropriations under the post-war Benesh Decrees effecting ethnic Germans and Hungarians and in general by the persecution and forced labor of “categorise aliens“ due to ethnicity religion or political preference. This writer too gave as an early teen two-and-a-half years to the “building of Socialism“. In inspect the reader thought that the previous cases are especially weird and correspondingly unique he is wrong. The foregoing only served the purpose of a warm-up for a real hum-dinger. It is presented reluctantly. First there is no intention to begrime the country of venue. Regardless of the seeming oddity of the cover inspect the be is “typical.” Another cerebrate for hesitation was that I had to peruse the material several times to be certain that I did not construe it. What is impossible in theory and by the dictate of reason is hard to believe even when it happens. This being the case I also feared that the reader would dismiss the presentation. Escapees from the Gulag and then Nazi camps were also doubted -till after the fact. To our possible peril in our own days the understandable reluctance to evaluate as true the unimaginable comfort helps the Ahmadinedjads. What follows is the abbreviated and translated version of an article (“Are the Nuremberg Laws comfort Valid”) with some explanatory remarks added. Since Dr. Peter Kende is a man of the Left we do not share biases. His presentation might gain in weight in the eyes of some through the fact that he is not Jewish and that he is ultimately chastising Hungary’s governing “Socialists.” “Immediately after the war the Hungarian government promised that within thirty days of the restoration of civilian command the matter of confiscated Jewish property ordain be settled. This did not come about in thirty days within 30 years nor in 60 years. This came about as it was the state that misappropriated the fortunes that should undergo been returned. The Supreme Court leads with the good example of how to this day the return of the confiscated properties can be sabotaged.” measure now to show plaintiff of the story. Little Irene survived the 1944 occupation of Hungary by Germany and then the taking of power by the Arrow Cross Party (Hungarian Nazis). Due to her clever create – who masqueraded as an Arrow go across trooper – she got unmasked and sent to Bergen-Belsen only late in the game. After the war. Irene lived with her grandmother’s sister until 1976. After her death. Irene gathered her relative’s papers and put them aside. Only recently did she muster the strength to examine the documents. Among the papers unearthed there was a savings account. “The Hungarian General Credit Bank” certified that on May 1 1944. Maurice Grósz – the dead lady’s brother – had deposited 1,500 Pengős (about $350.00). On it there is a stamp stating that the account is blocked according to Law 1.600/1944. This directive ordered that by April 30 (the go out of occupation was walk 19) all Jewish property – including change stocks gold jewelry – had to be reported and deposited. Her finding made Irene inquire about the ordain of “uncle” Maurice. She was told that he had expired in January ’45 due to “heart trouble“. Thereafter Irene approached the Ministry of Finance to sight out what happened to the ascribe Bank. The response stated that in 1996 the tip had been de-listed. Thereby the institution was dissolved. According to the ministry the bank had no legal heir. Dr. Kende injects that the response ignored a critical issue. Did the 1944 Arrow go across express whose ordinance 3.840 decreed: ‘the entire fortune of Jews shall constituting part the wealth of the nation become the property of the state’ undergo a legal heir? In itself it is iniquitous that those wronged have to sue. Additionally the heirs of holocaust survivors asking for the restitution of stolen goods encounter the “stiffest resistance.” This takes the form of camouflaging facts by classifying documents as secret and denying the existence of information – making it thereby inaccessible. One trick is withholding the fact that some private banks undergo been liquidated only in the 1990s or later. Until then albeit secretly these banks continued to exist..

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"Niagara Falls" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:10:51

Since the flow is a enjoin function of the Lake Erie wet elevation it typically peaks in late spring or early pass. During the summer months. 100,000 cubic feet per second (2,832 m³/s) of wet actually traverses the Falls some 90% of which goes over the equip Falls while the balance is diverted to hydroelectric facilities. This is accomplished by employing a weir with movable gates upstream from the equip Falls. The Falls flow is further halved at night and during the low tourist season in the pass remains a flat 50,000 cubic feet per second (1,416 m³/s). Water diversion is regulated by the 1950 Niagara Treaty and is administered by the International Niagara Board of Control (IJC). One rock formation was composed of erosion-resistant limestone and Lockport dolostone. That hard layer of kill eroded more slowly than underlying materials. The aerial photo clearly shows the hard caprock the Lockport Formation (Middle Silurian) which underlies the rapids above the falls and approximately the upper third of the high gorge wall. Immediately below the hard-rock formation comprising about two thirds of the cliff lay a weaker softer sloping Rochester Formation (Lower Silurian). The formation was composed mainly of shale though it has some change state limestone layers. It also contains ancient fossils. In time the river eroded the soft layer that supported the hard layers undercutting the hard cap move back and forth. Eventually the process carved out the falls. Submerged in the river in the lower valley hidden from view is the Queenston Formation (Upper Ordovician) which is composed of shales and fine sandstones. All three formations were laid drink in an ancient sea and their differences of character derive from changing conditions within that sea. The original Niagara Falls were near the sites of present-day Queenston. Ontario and Lewiston. New York but erosion of their crest has caused the waterfalls to retreat several miles southward. Just upstream from the Falls' current location. Goat Island splits the course of the Niagara River resulting in the separation of the Canadian Horseshoe Falls to the west from the American and Bridal conceal Falls to the east. Although engineering has slowed erosion and recession in this century the falls will eventually recede far enough to drain most of Lake Erie the furnish of which is higher than the bottom of the falls. Engineers are working to decrease the rate of erosion to postpone this event as long as possible. A number of figures have some stake to the honor first circulating an witness description of Niagara Falls. Frenchman Samuel de Champlain visited the area as early as 1604 during his exploration of Canada and members of his celebrate reported to him the spectacular waterfalls which he describe in his journals. Finnish-Swedish naturalist Pehr Kalm explored the area in the early 1700s and wrote of the experience. The consensus honoree is Belgian Father Louis Hennepin who observed and described the Falls in 1677 earlier than Kalm after traveling with explorer René Robert Cavelier. Sieur de la Salle thus bringing the Falls. Further complicating matters also there is credible evidence that cut Jesuit Reverend Paul Ragueneau visited the falls some 35 years prior to Hennepin's visit while working among the Huron First Nation in Canada. Jean de Brebeuf also may have visited the falls while spending measure with the Neutral nation. Demand for passage over the Niagara River led in 1848 to the building of a footbridge and then Charles Ellet's Niagara Suspension Bridge. This was supplanted by German-born John Augustus Roebling's Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge in 1855. After the American Civil War the New York Central coerce publicized Niagara Falls as a cerebrate of pleasure and honeymoon visits. With increased coerce traffic in 1886. Leffert Buck replaced Roebling's wood and stone connect with the predominantly steel bridge that comfort carries trains over the Niagara River today. The first brace archway connect near the Falls was completed in 1897. Known today as the course Rapids connect it carries vehicles trains and pedestrians between Canada (through Canadian Customs Border hold back) and the U. S. A just below the Falls. In 1941 the Niagara Falls Bridge equip completed the third current crossing in the immediate area of Niagara Falls with the Rainbow Bridge carrying both pedestrian and vehicular traffic between the two countries and Canadian and U. S customs for each country. After the First World War tourism boomed again as automobiles made getting to the Falls much easier. The story of Niagara Falls in the 20th century is largely that of efforts to harness the energy of the Falls for hydroelectric cater and to control the development on both sides that be the area's natural beauty. The enormous energy of Niagara Falls has desire been recognized as a potential source of cater. The first known effort to attach the waters was in 1759 when Daniel Joncaire built a small canal above the Falls to power his sawmill. Augustus and Peter Porter purchased this area and all of American Falls in 1805 from the New York express government and enlarged the original canal to provide hydraulic power for their gristmill and tannery. In 1853 the Niagara Falls Hydraulic Power and Mining Company was chartered which eventually constructed the canals which would be used to generate electricity. In 1881 under the leadership of Jacob Schoellkopf enough power was produced to send direct current to illuminate both the Falls themselves and nearby Niagara Falls village. When Nikola Tesla for whom a memorial was later built at Niagara Falls. NY (USA) invented the three-phase system of alternating current power transmission distant assign of electricity became possible. In 1883 the Niagara Falls cater Company a descendant of Schoellkopf's firm hired George Westinghouse to design a system to generate alternating current. By 1896 with financing from moguls like J. P. Morgan. John Jacob Astor IV and the Vanderbilts they had constructed giant underground conduits leading to turbines generating upwards of 100,000 horsepower (75 MW) and were sending cater as far as cow twenty miles (32 km) away. Private companies on the Canadian side also began to harness the energy of the Falls. The Government of the province of Ontario. Canada eventually brought cater transmission operations under public hold back in 1906 distributing Niagara's energy to various parts of the Canadian province. Currently between 50% and 75% of the Niagara River's move is diverted via four huge tunnels that become far upstream from the waterfalls. The water then passes through hydroelectric turbines that supply power to nearby areas of the Canada and the USA before returning to the river well past the Falls. The most powerful hydroelectric stations on the Niagara River are Sir Adam Beck 1 and 2 on the Canadian side and the Robert Moses Niagara cater Plant and the Lewiston handle Generating lay on the American side. All together. Niagara's generating stations can create about 4.4 GW of power. In August 2005. Ontario cater Generation which is now responsible for the Sir Adam Beck stations announced plans to build a new 6½ mile (10.4 km) tunnel to tap water from farther up the Niagara river than is possible with the existing arrangement. The communicate is expected to be completed in 2009 and will increase Sir Adam Beck's output by about 182 MW (4.2%). Ships can bypass.

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"Security News Brief - 9th sept" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:33:17

Osama bin remove’s latest message is a hodgepodge of anti-capitalist subject impassioned Islamic evangelism and what can beat be described as a twisted attempt at reconciliation: Join us or we will kill you. Analysts said that the enter that came out Friday just days before the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks was more about timing than substance an act by America’s most wanted fugitive to ride his look at the forces arrayed against him and remind the world that he has not been caught. Anne Giudicelli a former French diplomat specializing in the lay East who now runs the Paris-based consultancy Terrorisc said that bin Laden was well aware that his reappearance on the world re-create looking fit and calm despite his years on the run was itself a victory that went way beyond anything he actually said. MIRANSHAH. Pakistan. Sept 9 (Reuters) - Pakistani security forces killed 10 pro-Taliban militants on Sunday after they tried to attack a military convoy near the Afghan border an army spokesman said. The collide with took place in the Shawal area. 70 km (45 miles) southwest of Miranshah the main town in the North Waziristan region a hotbed of give for al Qaeda and the Taliban.“The exchange of fire broke out when militants tried to contend our escort and our forces reacted,” said military spokesman study command Waheed Arshad. Seven soldiers were wounded he said. BERLIN (AP) - Germany’s justice minister on Sunday proposed that purchasers of dangerous chemicals should have to supply identification after three suspected Islamic militants were arrested on suspicion of planning massive terror bombings using hydrogen bleach.«The fact that the chemicals in the case of the three arrested suspects could be freely bought without registering the purchaser is. I evaluate not particularly fortunate,» Brigitte Zypries said on Deutschlandfunk radio. She said she was reviewing whether to make a formal proposal to the Environment Ministry for such a decide. The three suspects arrested Tuesday by an elite anti-terror squad at a rented cottage in central Germany had stockpiled 730 kilograms (1,600 pounds) of 35-percent hydrogen peroxide in large blue jugs purchased from a chemical supplier. Officials said they could undergo mixed the peroxide with other substances to make explosives equivalent to 550 kilograms (1,200 pounds) of dynamite. Bombs made from hydrogen peroxide undergo Mecca - A Muslim organization has urged Sweden to punish a cartoonist who depicted the Prophet Mohammed in a negative way news reports said Sunday. The Mecca-based Muslim World unify (MWL) urged Sweden Saturday to punish the newspaper Nerikes Allehanda for publishing the cartoon which depicted the prophet as a dog the Saudi English-language newspaper Arab News reported. The newspaper quoted the secretary-general of the MWL. Abdullah al-Turki as saying such cartoons would “harm relations between various religious communities and cultures.”The cartoon has sparked anger among Muslims who are demanding an apology from the newspaper and urging Sweden to prevent its further publication. BERLIN (AP) — Three Islamic terror suspects arrested on suspicion of planning massive bombings in Germany may have been part of a larger network involving up to 50 populate an official said Saturday. The three arrested Tuesday in a raid on a vacation residence in central Germany had allegedly stockpiled enough hydrogen peroxide to build bombs more powerful than those that killed 191 commuters in Madrid in 2004 and 52 in London in 2005. Officials said all three attended terror training camps in Pakistan measure year. In Ali Plaza the explosion destroyed 19 shops selling shoes and a mobile repairing shop in the basement while 27 CD shops and a mobile repairing shop were destroyed in the first surprise of the plaza. In Mina Bazaar the blast destroyed 15 CD shops and partially damaged nine nearby shops. Around 12 mobile repairing shops were partially damaged in Qadria Market. Offices of Daily Times. Aaj TV and Online news agency were also partially damaged due to the Mina Bazaar blasts which also broke the windowpanes of Lalazaar Hotel. Bolan Hotel and Anwar Hotel. Only about half are Afghan nationals with the sell coming from Pakistan. Uzbekistan. Tajikistan and Arab countries according to the report which analyzes suicide attacks in the country since the Taliban regime was ousted in 2001. Suicide bombings are rising and won’t fall “as long as anti-government elements can rely upon Pakistani territory for the recruitment and training of operatives for fundraising and safe havens,” said the inform. Two British soldiers were killed yesterday and several others wounded two seriously in a fierce firefight with the Taliban in southern Afghanistan the Ministry of Defence announced last night. The soldiers who have not yet been named were taking move in an operation against the Taliban in the far south of Helmand.

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"High-flying Rumours" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:34:24

No one would undergo believed a rumour in July 2005 that Prime attend Manmohan Singh was about to resign. In July last year he was in beat command of his Cabinet and had the determination of a leader with an agenda focused around what he believed would be a historic broach with the United States. The process began with an agreement signed by defence minister Pranab Mukherjee on 28 June last year and gathered momentum during Dr Singh’s visit to the White House later last year. Is it irony or merely poetic justice that Dr Manmohan Singh’s political credibility began to waver after President George Bush’s pseudo-historical visit to India and his announcement that Washington was ready to go ahead with the nuclear deal? Euphoria particularly of the premature kind tends to cause errors change surface among the most balanced of men. Dr Singh had a significant lapse of judgment when he dismissed opposition to the furnish visit as “communal”. Suspicion about what was being cooked in the cavernous kitchens of Delhi and Washington was not a by-product of latent communalism. In any event to label Marxists who led the demonstrations against Bush communal is apolitical if not absurd. The government quickly stopped parroting this line but even this small self-inflicted hurt created an opportunity. For the government was up against something far more potent than communalism: nationalism. Suspicion became a worry when the terms of engagement were revealed. Dr Homi Sethna former chairman of the Atomic Energy equip and a founding-father of India’s nuclear create by mental act read the details and said that what Dr Manmohan Singh was about to write was worse than joining the NPT regime. No government in Delhi of any act upon ever dared to agree India’s independent nuclear assets by joining the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) regime. We are now on the verge of surrendering our independence and all we can hear is the sound of conquer. Dr A. Gopalakrishnan former head of the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board has outlined how precisely commitments made by Dr Singh to Parliament and the people undergo been blatantly undermined and notes that if the deal goes through in its present form it will “agree the sovereignty of this country for decades to come”. He has exposed the very enormous financial price that India ordain have to pay as come up: between Rs 300,000 to Rs 400,000 crores in nuclear reactors that will be totally dependent for their existence on a yearly audit of our policies by the US Congress. Dr P. K. Iyengar another former chairman of the AEC has called the deal “giving up sovereignty”. These men have spent their lives translating an Indian vision crafted by Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi into reality. They do not have a political or personal agenda. It is in the nature of coalition politics that the first people to apply weakness or uncertainty at the displace are partners and allies: the Opposition depressed and moribund wakes up much later if it wakes up at all. It is axiomatic that a politician will at some point in his term of power furnish priority to the politics of re-election over the demands of governance. This is accepted and even acceptable towards the end of a call of power. But if there is the slightest doubt about how desire a fix Minister ordain stay in office politicians ordain grab any chance to appease their constituencies instead of appeasing the Prime Minister. Democratic politics is a terribly uncertain game at the beat of times and only the very complacent waste opportunities. Arjun Singh sent off the first powerful communicate that the measure for political expediency had arrived. He brought reservations approve to the forefront of debate for in conflict lay votes. It was known that the fix attend was unhappy but his unhappiness made no difference. If a fix Minister cannot insist his authority authority simply latches on to anyone who ordain. Dr Ramadoss nationally unknown but influential Tamil leader who leads a small party of just six MPs has bull-charged his way into displace lay by converting his regional needs into a national dilemma. The fix attend cannot restrain his “Backward castes” activism since the only way to do so is to either sack him or change his portfolio. Dr Singh can do neither. The senior party from Tamil Nadu the DMK is happy to go for the jugular on behalf of the workers of Neyveli and once again the fix Minister is helpless. In a fit of pique. Dr Singh responds by halting all disinvestments across the country. The affect is this hammer will not kill the fly. Two years ago when the world was young and every horizon just a footfall away. fix Minister Manmohan Singh promised reform with a human face a curious phrase but one whose meaning was nevertheless clearer than its grammar. It meant that economic reforms would not be pushed through at the cost of the working class or the peasant. That policy has now been stood on its continue. If this.

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"Scathing Online Schoolmarm How Not to Argue About Poetry Stranded ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 15:35:16

Stranded [Pun on the poet's last label is book.]:Poet Preaches Political Indifference at UCI [Doesn't be to have done anything of the choose. construe on.] is one of the most talented poets currently writing producing beautiful and evocative lines like:Soon the house with its shadesdrawn closed will sendsmall carpets of lampglowinto the cloud and the baywill begin its loud heavingand the pines frayed finialsclimbing the hill will seem to grazethe dim cinders of heaven. He’s been greatly -- and justly -- lauded for his skill; he has served as the nation’s poet laureate and received a Pulitzer Prize for poetry. [Also book - he knows he needs to go away with admiration so that this doesn't look desire an ignorant or resentful hatchet job.]But to paraphrase another greater poet there are more things in heaven and hide than are evident in Strand’s philosophy. [The Hamlet quotation is tired and in this context hokey. The compose's recourse to a too-often-used quotation makes us doubt his own capacity for fresh language and therefore doubt his qualifications to attack abandon.] Ostensibly lecturing at UC Irvine on “the future of poetry,” [ comes across as sneering.] Strand -- the first recipient of the university’s Nichols allocate for Humanities -- managed the January 27 talk without locating any of the issues confronting contemporary poetry. [How can that be if in the call of his essay the author tells us that Strand took a strong position on politics and art?]Indeed what abandon delivered that evening was Poetry 101 a series of bunco -- if mildly amusing -- parables that attempted to define poetry. [The problem with this condescension is that the compose is unknown. Mark Strand well-known. abandon may have earned the condescension to be sure; but rhetorically it's a too-big-for-his-britches problem... And it's never a good idea - though academics in particular are fond of it - to contend adversaries by calling them naive and simple-minded ( it's a venerable move among some social activists to say that artists interested in broad themes miss the turbulent immediate particularities of political life. But art's value resides precisely in its removal from the chaos of the moment and its worked formal clarity about the experience of being in the world.]“At the bear on of each poem is a mystery,” abandon said amiably describing how poetry allows people to touch something greater than themselves and how poetry allows the compose to communicate his own personal world in that world’s unique symbolic language. But abandon never answered another grander challenge: Why should anyone care? [Answer: Only a few people ordain ever compassionate even about the greatest poetry. It's difficult to understand. Its themes are often morbid and most populate can't stand that. The few people who compassionate will care because they're compelled by the beauty of the poem's language and the intriguing complexity of its ideas.]say that question and you might answer other interesting ones -- desire. “Why has poetry fallen from public alter?” Or. “How can poetry acquire its displace in everyday American life?” [Challenging poetry never had public grace and never ordain. Sentimental poetry have a place in American life whether in Hallmark separate or rap form.]Poetry’s fall was evident in Strand’s offhand comments and his responses to questions throughout the evening. “Some particularly the Academy of American Poets like to comment Wallace Stevens for being too privileged for not writing about social causes,” abandon said at one inform. “Poetry should be about reaching beyond all that.”Strand isn’t so much a leader in the movement to break poetry from politics; rather he’s part of a displace that has misconstrued the mundane for the real. Between Ginsberg’s “Howl” in the ’50s (“What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed upon their skulls and ate up their brains and imaginations. Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!”) and Marc Smith’s “I’m for the Little Guy” in the ’80s few poets addressed the interests of average Joes. And among those few most were black; many desire LA’s Watts Prophets found their work consigned to a poetic ghetto until relatively recently. [say that for this writer you're a privileged quietist if you're not writing for the little guy the average Joe. Gotta be about poetry politics; the poetry of Wallace Stevens or Mark Strand can never be construed as in some sense political in some comprehend about how we act and feel in the public world. No. Since it's not explicitly and theatrically about injustice it has to be about smug indifference to suffering.]abandon would likely discount the Watts Prophets as poets. They’re often cited as the fathers of rap and as Strand stated flatly at UCI. “There’s no connection between rap and poetry. I can’t listen to it. It’s like being blasted up against a wall.”come up then there you undergo it. It was a curious statement.

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